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RE: Please let's end this discussion
~Naomi Deskroterakol 12.Dec.02 02:35 PM a Web browser
Notes Client 6.0 Linux - RedHat, Linux - SuSE


First, it's seems that you come from a corporate background and when you think of a bussiness, you are thinking of, at least, a few hundred seats. The company I work for is big, but it's big by the standards of the place we are in. Most of our clients are in the manufacturing sector and, thus, we are talking about companies that have less than a hundred seats (sometimes just a few dozen), because most of their workforce doesn't work in front of a computer.

Fair enough. But -- this is an important point -- it will NOT pay for Lotus to
build a KDE client unless the kinds of customers I work for are looking to
migrate. Selling into 50-100 seat shops is going to be far too low an ROI. If
you want Lotus to take serious interest in Linux desktops, show up with clients
looking to implement 10,000+ seats.

You surely know that higher TCO costs depend on the use you do to a computer. Windows 98 TCO costs, for example, are probably much higher than those of Windows XP or Linux. Why? Because an user with Win98 can erase all his hard disk if he wants to (Have you never had an user who deleted his windows folder because he wasn't using it and it took too much space? ;D). A Linux PC + notes client won't allow the users to do anything appart from running the installed apps and configure their desktop (and if they really mess it up, just delete their desktop config file if you don't want to loose time).

Who runs Win98 on a corporate desktop? Windows 2000 gives you similar policy
controls over local files. No, I will not claim it gives the flexibility of a
Linux box, but it definitely can be easily configured to prevent inadvertant
destruction by local users.

You are also saving time thanks to the lack of viruses, because I know that Notes is not Outlook, but users have a nice tendency to execute whatever attachement they receive.

True enough. Good anti-virus software is very important.

Just as a last example, we have many clients with a lot of computers that just need Notes, a word processor, and Client Access. Guess what's holding them from migrating to Linux?

The fact that their Notes apps haven't been ported to Mozilla? ;)

Seriously, if they're paying X dollars/year to support Windows, and they'd save
that X dollars by using Linux, then that X dollars should be well spent on
convert to a web app. Why not do that?




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. . . . . . . . . . That can't be the reason (~Ned Frogerogen... 5.Dec.02)
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. . . . Isn't it?... re: huh? (~Naomi Deskrote... 5.Dec.02)
. . . . . . * Well said. A custom winelet is my... (~Dan Nimponekon... 5.Dec.02)
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. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Please let's end this discussion (~Chloe Quetvelu... 12.Dec.02)
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. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . never mind (~Ned Frogerogen... 11.Dec.02)
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